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Post by William on Jan 28, 2004 15:10:09 GMT -5
Bush's accompliments
to handle an attack and not be attacked again, to protect us flawlessly in war, to keep taxes low during a war, not to be caught in a scandal, to catch saddam huissein...not to carry on the pronounciation of "saad aam who sane"
and to do a good job at maintaing our nation during war, to have the most peaceful control of riots and protest in the US ever during an uprising...
and to do a good job as president...
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Post by eric on Jan 28, 2004 15:15:11 GMT -5
as long as someone dies, its really all the same...strategies or not. the purpose of a war is to kill the other people and whatever you do to do it, you do it. u just contradicted yourself! you said before that they WERENT terrorists and now ur saying that they are...... swanny said...."yea you know theres this thing called war and when soldiers fight in it, they have a risk of getting killed. the people killing the americans aren't "terrorists" they are "soliders" and they are killing before they get killed. actually war is a very simple concept that even simple minds can understand. "
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Post by scott on Jan 28, 2004 16:02:52 GMT -5
to keep taxes low during a war Hence putting us in a crap load od debt. And at least one person died every day in war,and that is just on the US side.
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Post by Swanny on Jan 28, 2004 18:43:41 GMT -5
where in that quote did i say that the were terrorists? i said that terrorism is a war strategy, which does not mean that i think these people are terrorists...sorry erik, you lose again.
and i'm sure ur gonna love bush when our generation has to pay for this war in our taxes. 97 billion and counting, thats a lot of money.
its....game time!! Q: Who wants to make roads through the alaskan forests which wil lmost likely devastate 2.5 million acres of land?
A: George W. Bush
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Post by msuhockeycj on Jan 28, 2004 18:57:08 GMT -5
Bush's accompliments to handle an attack and not be attacked again, to protect us flawlessly in war, to keep taxes low during a war, not to be caught in a scandal, to catch saddam huissein...not to carry on the pronounciation of "saad aam who sane" and to do a good job at maintaing our nation during war, to have the most peaceful control of riots and protest in the US ever during an uprising... and to do a good job as president... Wow kenny, he stopped us from getting attacked again, we wouldnt have been attacked in the first place if bush would have payed attention to threats instead of taking months off on vacation. Wow, he kept taxes low and yet now the economy is in the gutter and the war costs are outlandish. Wow he really had no involvment in peaceful protests to not go to war, except dismissing the thoughts of americans and going to war cuz sadaam tried to kill his dad. What real good has bush done? Wow
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Post by Swanny on Jan 28, 2004 19:05:52 GMT -5
like i said....go read bush's resume and you will be shocked, here are some key facts though
First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.
Accomplishments: Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union. Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.
Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans. (which is ironic, because by the time he's done, millions of people are gonna be verterans)
Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.
First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.
Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
i don't see how ANY bushaholic even brief can overlook these true statements...i don't care who you are read them...u'll be amazed
~Swanny
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Post by msuhockeycj on Jan 28, 2004 19:13:45 GMT -5
and brief, PLEASE stop posting just to post (in this thread), dont post unless u actually have something important to add to the thread. if u have no reasonable argument (well your arguing for bush i can see the difficulties of finding one) then PLEASE DONT POST IN THIS THREAD arguing if or if not sean contradicted himself,(which he did not) there are plenty of other ones to do that in.
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Post by Mark617 on Jan 28, 2004 22:31:30 GMT -5
yea you know theres this thing called war and when soldiers fight in it, they have a risk of getting killed. the people killing the americans aren't "terrorists" they are "soliders" and they are killing before they get killed. actually war is a very simple concept that even simple minds can understand. all they have to do is put down their weapons and stop fighting. the US soldiers are not going to kill people who are not shooting at them or planning attacks on american soldiers or iraqi civilians. also, if they are soldiers, what country do they fight for? because they arent sponsored by iraq. i seriously have a hard time believing you consider them "soldiers," do you not call Sadaam an "ex-dictator" because its not fair to him? your just like the damn BBC. also, swanny (and anyone else who believes this deception), there was no surplus in clinton's presidency. ill be back later with a link the government's official account records that show this.
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Post by William on Jan 28, 2004 22:32:53 GMT -5
CJ Back off, hes got input...
and swanny...the worst security breach in history? pearl harbor? and your commenting on this war? what about an atom bomb what say you of that?
and about the taxes, the debt is always high, theres nothing were ever gonna do about it, why do you think anyone will ever rid us of it?
and one person dying a day, thats less than abortion, and you seem to be ripping bush up more than that! thats more than those who die due to hunger in california alone...
hes not doing bad, he was given a hell of a bad situation to deal with this entire time! lay off him!
and eric did catch you swanny, you made the point that they were terrorists and that there was a difference that mattered, then you said it didnt matter wether they were terroritst or not...which contradicted the idea of there being a difference...
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Post by bob on Jan 29, 2004 15:15:39 GMT -5
yeah swanny, they its put in your post, you made it seem like it was his fault 9/11 occured, and because of those attacks, the economy suffered. its pretty narrow-mided to blame something like that on someone. of course bush has made mistakes, but give the guy some damn credit, he is only human, and i think he did a hell of a job and you and i could never do what he has
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Post by Megzymeg on Jan 29, 2004 16:12:35 GMT -5
and brief, PLEASE stop posting just to post (in this thread), dont post unless u actually have something important to add to the thread. if u have no reasonable argument (well your arguing for bush i can see the difficulties of finding one) then PLEASE DONT POST IN THIS THREAD arguing if or if not sean contradicted himself,(which he did not) there are plenty of other ones to do that in. and what you said is very very important...?
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Post by Swanny on Jan 29, 2004 20:01:22 GMT -5
but pearl harbor was an attack on an american "soilder" base...there was a war going on they should've at least be a little cautious. 9/11 was an attack on a civilian building during no WW or anything. it was completely out of the blue and it couldn't have been expected, unlike pearl harbor which as i said was during a war on a us base. those were soilders being attacked not innocent civilians.
i never said it was his falt and if i did then i apologize. i just said that he was away from work, the white house, looking over the nation all of august, the month before the attack. there were warnings of a terrorist attack coming into the white house but those were pretty much ignored and then 9/11 happened.
in all seriousness, i still don't understand my mistake, eric, kenny please give me clear evidence cuz i'm really confused about me contradicting myself...thank you.
to wrap up, i don't like bush. i don't like his policies, or the fact that he's destroying our enviroment, i don't like the things he's done (see the resume) i don't blame 9-11 soley on him but he should be taking some of the blame. i do think that he has some iffy issues, and policies. i'm sorry if this offends you, but he did lose the popular vote by half a million. i'm not alone
~Swanny
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Post by Swanny on Jan 29, 2004 20:05:39 GMT -5
sorry i need to add one more thing
it would be an amazing spectacular incredibly miraculous breathtaking feat of God if all the american soilders just put their weapons down and stopped fighting. saddam loaylists would not put their weapons down and give up too, they would strike right at this moment. so unless you want these men and women coming home in body bags, that's not a very good idea.
also the truth is unknowable but is likely in the neighborhood of 6500 innocent people and counting have been killed in the war in iraq. so much for innocent civilians being safe
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Post by BELETH the Mighty on Jan 29, 2004 20:13:29 GMT -5
If I know my math, and I do, that's three times the number killed in 9/11. So pull your heads out of your collective asses and try to start thinking of him in any way different than as a big fucking hero. Fat chance, I take it. Whatever, I give up. There's no budging you people. Pride is a far stronger force than truth, it would seem.
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Post by William on Jan 29, 2004 23:39:08 GMT -5
but pearl harbor was an attack on an american "soilder" base...there was a war going on they should've at least be a little cautious. 9/11 was an attack on a civilian building during no WW or anything. it was completely out of the blue and it couldn't have been expected, unlike pearl harbor which as i said was during a war on a us base. those were soilders being attacked not innocent civilians. ~Swanny there was a war going on...hmm...it was an attack on the most idealistic building in the US (were lucky it hasnt been hit till now)...and there have been three wars going on!!!
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