IamAlia
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Post by IamAlia on Dec 9, 2003 21:17:49 GMT -5
you also have to realize that the abuse statistics are skewed by three factors
1. abuse is usually not physical and therefore not illegal
2. reporting abuse is more common today than in the past, although I'm not sure what it has been since the legalization of abortion
3. the population of the world has been growing since, forever, and due to that abuse would have increased in numbers, not nessesarily percentage
I have not really looked into the whole abuse in relation to the legalization of abortion thing, but standalone abuse I know a bit about, and the number of REPORTED "incidents" have increased since 10 years ago due in large part to better laws and the fact that there is less persecution against people who report abuse.
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Post by Wilshire on Dec 9, 2003 22:23:31 GMT -5
Sure they are, but wait, today I just killed several million cells wiping my desk down with alcohol, not to mention the some extra million by using my nifty anti-zit cream. obviously your talking an ENTIRE single entity rather than some random liver bacteria that makes up PARTS of humans, but I'm just trying to make a point. And in responce to Eskimo, Yes, I personally would agree that having a shit life is better than no life, but many people from abusive parenthoods become suicidal, and if they don't, abuse is a transferred trait, people who were abused as children often times become abusive even if the people who abuse them are not their biological parents. The point is that those cells are the beginning of life. They're not just extraneous surface cells, they are the initiating factor of human life. Its there, and the cells are alive. More than just them being alive, is the fact that they promise a full human life. Even if the child is abused, it may or may not be, there can still be a fulfilling human life. You're saying that just because there is a "good chance" that they child may be abused, you should not allow it to live? It should live because even the promise of live outweighs the bad prospects |
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Eskimo
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Post by Eskimo on Dec 10, 2003 9:19:46 GMT -5
it should live because we shouldn't start deciding when someone (who is innocent of any crime) should live and when they shouldn't. You start that and soon enough we'll be killing people in comas, unpopular kids, ugly people, etc. etc.
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IamAlia
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Post by IamAlia on Dec 10, 2003 18:51:05 GMT -5
it should live because we shouldn't start deciding when someone (who is innocent of any crime) should live and when they shouldn't. You start that and soon enough we'll be killing people in comas, unpopular kids, ugly people, etc. etc. Although I understand his point, as time has gone on invalids and people with sicknesses have been killed LESS and that trend has never changed. an example of this is the fact that, until (sorta) recently it was perfectly legal to execute people who were mentally retarded in Texas. Now it's not, so with the exception of abortion the trend has been to kill LESS innocent people (yes I realize the EXACT way I worded that sentence). Also, mind you, Texas is not a good example for the whole US, but the trend shows up there most recently. |
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Post by William on Dec 10, 2003 21:05:57 GMT -5
so because the trend is of the innocent killing to go down, why would it have any increase...that makes it worse...
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Eskimo
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Post by Eskimo on Dec 11, 2003 7:56:43 GMT -5
right, I'd like to eradicate it completely.
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