eric
Big Gulp
thats rite
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Post by eric on Feb 23, 2004 19:38:31 GMT -5
Fight the good fight.
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Post by scott on Feb 23, 2004 20:29:11 GMT -5
Are you saying the war with Iraq was a 'good fight' then? |
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Post by Swanny on Feb 23, 2004 21:01:58 GMT -5
and kill innocent civilians??? like this- 1991-Present: American planes bomb Iraq on a weekly basis. U.N. estimates that 500,000 children die from bombing and sanctions
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eric
Big Gulp
thats rite
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Post by eric on Feb 25, 2004 20:35:34 GMT -5
Are you saying the war with Iraq was a 'good fight' then? hmm, i dont wanna get into that debate, but you said "War is worthless." its not worthless if its for a good cause |
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Post by scott on Feb 25, 2004 22:06:50 GMT -5
hmm, i dont wanna get into that debate, but you said "War is worthless." its not worthless if its for a good cause So killing is good,as long as we get some oil,or any other thing. I would argue that two wrongs don't make a right and that the ends do not justify the means. |
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eric
Big Gulp
thats rite
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Post by eric on Feb 26, 2004 11:11:44 GMT -5
So killing is good,as long as we get some oil,or any other thing. I would argue that two wrongs don't make a right and that the ends do not justify the means. if that was what the war was about, then it would be an unjust war. you must not know what osmama and them have been doing to other people... but i dont care to explain it all. i have tried putting sense into anti-war people and i have failed. i do not care to try again |
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Post by Wilshire on Feb 26, 2004 18:51:49 GMT -5
A lot of the anti-war people just parody what they here from the media and other anti-war sources. Anyone can make an agrument from common sense FOR the war, but to argue against it you have to make something up like oil or imperialism.
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Post by scott on Feb 26, 2004 21:26:02 GMT -5
Fine,screw the oil,that really makes no difference to the point I was trying to make.
Is anything really worth killing?Who the hell are you to play God?Huh?
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Post by Wilshire on Feb 26, 2004 23:44:03 GMT -5
Killing is, simply put, bad. I agree. But war is sometimes the better of two evils. Should we sit by and let the Iraqi government persecute its people, denying them basic rights, even the right to life. Should we sit by and let terrorists do what they do best, kill people, even our civilians in our own country. Or...should we make the effort to take Sadaam out of power, establishing a truly democratic government (that isn't perfect, but is better than the last), and should we make the effort to stop the terrorism attacks on people around the world?
Yes war isn't a good thing, people die, innocents are harmed. But what if we did nothing?! Thousands more would die by the hand of Sadaam, millions more would die at the hands of terrorists! "The only way for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing." We're doing something. Do you really think we should do nothing?
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Post by Swanny on Feb 28, 2004 16:45:51 GMT -5
eric you have failed miserable, mostly because when ever i bring up a good point (like our generation will be paying the war debt and such) all you say is "Shut Up". how is that trying to talk sense into anti-war/bush people
as far as i'm concerned you've never had a good reason for the war's existence....except for oil
remember when iraq invaded the oil filled kuwait...why would the US wanna stop iraq from doing so?
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eric
Big Gulp
thats rite
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Post by eric on Feb 28, 2004 20:06:55 GMT -5
eric you have failed miserable, mostly because when ever i bring up a good point (like our generation will be paying the war debt and such) all you say is "Shut Up". how is that trying to talk sense into anti-war/bush people as far as i'm concerned you've never had a good reason for the war's existence....except for oil remember when iraq invaded the oil filled kuwait...why would the US wanna stop iraq from doing so? miserably* and who said that i was talking about you? i wasnt, anyway.... look above at wilshire's post, i agree with him |
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Post by Swanny on Feb 29, 2004 1:07:12 GMT -5
this war hasn't stopped terrorism at all! there are still gonna be terrorist attacks, and just because they don't happen on us soil doesn't mean they don't happen at all. the news doens't care about what doesn't happen hear to of course you aren't gonna hear about them, but they are still happening.
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Post by Wilshire on Mar 1, 2004 22:54:51 GMT -5
Of course they are, no argument there. Our job isn't finished yet. We're just beginning.
So you're saying that because there is always going to be terrorism, we shouldn't do anything about it? Answer me Swanny.
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Post by JadeGriffon on Mar 2, 2004 22:57:31 GMT -5
Okay, killing people is bad. War is bad. But just standing by and letting others kill innocent people and stuff is worse. Its a necessary evil. Well... not necessary, but better than doing nothing. The best way to get peace is with a knife. This statement is close to true, because while peace is unattainable, something close to it isn't.
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Post by Swanny on Mar 3, 2004 7:40:18 GMT -5
if our job has just begun then why has president bush already declared that the war in iraq is over and the usa was victorious??
and um, i did say there was always gonna be terrorism, but where did i say "we shouldn't do anything about it" because what i did say was :
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