eric
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Post by eric on Feb 19, 2004 23:12:04 GMT -5
war puts an end to some violence. if we just kept on letting the nazis rule, then more and more people would be killed by them. u dont just let people kill innocent people. war is necessary for peace. just cuz u dont have wars, doesnt mean u have peace.
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Post by scott on Feb 19, 2004 23:41:35 GMT -5
war puts an end to some violence. war is necessary for peace. Violence comes from war.There will never be a war that will end violence,more and more violence will just keep on coming,thanks to war.Do we want that?Becuase that is where we are going... And we will never get peace from war,for the same reason as stated above.War comes from war. War is worthless. No glory in a war.
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Post by BELETH the Mighty on Feb 21, 2004 11:40:20 GMT -5
Know your facts. The Nazi party would have never come to power if it weren't for World War I. The war sent Germany into a chaotic recession, so they resorted to the Nazis to help them out, and gave up their rights. That's how we have the Holocaust. So you see, all wars are a result of past wars. It's all pointless.
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Post by scott on Feb 21, 2004 19:02:20 GMT -5
all wars are a result of past wars. It's all pointless. A freaking men.It is a cycle that will never end,war can only bring on more wars.Peace can NEVER come from fighting.Oh well,some people just will never get it...
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Post by Mark617 on Feb 21, 2004 20:24:37 GMT -5
A freaking men.It is a cycle that will never end,war can only bring on more wars.Peace can NEVER come from fighting.Oh well,some people just will never get it... well total and utter peace is impossible anyways. chasing after it is like chasing the wind. War is a part of life and it will be forever and always. so get used to it
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Post by Mark617 on Feb 21, 2004 20:28:02 GMT -5
Know your facts. The Nazi party would have never come to power if it weren't for World War I. The war sent Germany into a chaotic recession, so they resorted to the Nazis to help them out, and gave up their rights. That's how we have the Holocaust. So you see, all wars are a result of past wars. It's all pointless. small correction, the nazi party really wasnt bad--hitler was. and hitler would not have come to power if it werent for the unfair peace treaty that ended WWI (which the US refused to sign). and guess who spearheaded that treaty? the damn french
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Post by scott on Feb 21, 2004 20:38:39 GMT -5
well total and utter peace is impossible anyways. chasing after it is like chasing the wind. War is a part of life and it will be forever and always. so get used to it Yes I am pretty sure that the world will never be a totally peaceful place.But that doesn't mean we can't try to make it a peaceful place.Why get use to war?We should strive to make the world peaceful,not just say 'oh well let's just get to war'.
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Post by Mark617 on Feb 21, 2004 21:10:56 GMT -5
yes, we should try to avoid wars. but one has to realize that to eliminate them is impossible. it just seems to me that being a pacifist just isnt realistic.
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Post by scott on Feb 21, 2004 21:33:35 GMT -5
yes, we should try to avoid wars. but one has to realize that to eliminate them is impossible. Who knows,but we could always try.I think if everyone just thought about what they were doing in a war and all that,who knows,maybe we wouldn't have wars. And who gave anyone the right to take another life?
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Post by Wilshire on Feb 21, 2004 23:10:07 GMT -5
Yes I am pretty sure that the world will never be a totally peaceful place.But that doesn't mean we can't try to make it a peaceful place.Why get use to war?We should strive to make the world peaceful,not just say 'oh well let's just get to war'. Thats the problem...we strive for peace by fighting wars. Weird isn't it? But true. War is a part of our nature. Yes, striving for peace is good, but conflict maintains the peace we enjoy today. Of course this "peace" is only a relative peace because there is constant conflict going on, and there is the occasional conflict on a much larger scale - a large war. The world will never be a totally peaceful place, but we can't just dismiss war because it will happen one way or another. The fact of the matter is, wars keep a relative peace (until there is another war). There's not much that can be done about that.
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eric
Big Gulp
thats rite
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Post by eric on Feb 21, 2004 23:17:03 GMT -5
Violence comes from war.There will never be a war that will end violence,more and more violence will just keep on coming,thanks to war.Do we want that?Becuase that is where we are going... And we will never get peace from war,for the same reason as stated above.War comes from war. War is worthless. No glory in a war. so if there were no wars, it would be peaceful for all? i think not peace is a state of tranquillity or quiet or freedom from civil disturbance Even if we do not have wars, there will not be peace. There are many other types of non-peaceful activity.
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Post by Swanny on Feb 21, 2004 23:50:04 GMT -5
so eric, when world war 3 comes about, i'm sure you'll be right behind bush's side as he launches the first nukes...what does war solve...it leads to more violence. and the us isn't to good with making some kind of formal goverment...we used to be friends with iraq...until they tried to get OUR i mean kuwait's oil...hehe slip of the tounge their sorry.
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Post by scott on Feb 21, 2004 23:52:38 GMT -5
Even if we do not have wars, there will not be peace. There are many other types of non-peaceful activity. True,but there would be more peace and less death,and we all would like that right? And I don't get what you mean by the last line of that post.
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Post by JadeGriffon on Feb 22, 2004 18:09:06 GMT -5
all wars are a result of past wars. There had to be a first war, though, one that wasn't a result of a previous war. Anyways, "There is no such thing as peace, only lulls between the fighting."
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Post by BELETH the Mighty on Feb 23, 2004 18:23:09 GMT -5
He's saying that we entered the Gulf War not for the sake of the Kuwaitians, but for our own self-interest in the oil industries.
This reminds me of a joke:
Why is Bush so sure there are WMD's in Iraq?
Because he has the reciept.
That was from Chappelle's Show, great show.
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