War

[scott]

Ben said:

It's not like he said anything that profound man...

I know,I was just agreeing with him.

*puts on war is worthless shirt*
That's better...

[TheSilentDemon]

ok to all the people who think that war is "wrong" all the time. please let me take you back to a little period in time that i like to call WW2 or the wiping out of the jews. now in replace of war what suggestions would u have offered Hitler about not exterminating the jews and enslaving europe. what would u just stand with a sign and put your hand out to halt Hitlers march of malice against the jews. realistically what actions would u have taken to stop Hitler. or are you one of those idlers who doesn't care about what goes on outside of the US. if so then your no better than hitler. live in the now. war is all around us, just waiting to happen granted a few wars were unfounded but theres not much other choice you have agaisnt a possible would dominator. maybe if you asked him real nice. *cough* bullshit *cough*

[Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper]

six said:

When where and how.

Back up the page a little. The text was broken by (------), I said as I quote my self, "...just becasue you hate Jesus (You known Who) hatting?...you dislike the...."
Also, I refered to your prefenrtial treatment in one of the forums at the bottom of the main page. I just basically said that you only gave William the "Global" modship becasue some people were picking on poor William.

[Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper]

six said:

*puts on war is worthless shirt*
That's better...

To the Silen Deamon first of all: It was called the holocasut for short.

To Scott: Another example of preventing "world dominators" as the Silen Deamon worte it was the Nepoleanic Wars...with out the banding of Every European counry left standing + Russia, then Napolean would have been able to have shorlty calimed the World as his own land. There are others farther back... but looking at Solbidan Milosich (horribly butchering of his name) he had an ethnic leanising regime of his own and what did Clinty do...flew a few jest over head and let Nato deal withit. Not the solution which would have stoped the ethnic cleansing right away, a full ground invasion.

[TheSilentDemon]

the holocaust doesn't do what happend justice. it often needs more adjectives. and stop critiqueing me. worry about yourself

[Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper]

TheSilentDemon said:

the holocaust doesn't do what happend justice. it often needs more adjectives. and stop critiqueing me. worry about yourself

Just infomring you that a twelve year olds know what the holocasut was so why not call it by the historical name?

[TheSilentDemon]

look above your last post. i just said why. am i speaking another language.

[Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper]

TheSilentDemon said:

look above your last post. i just said why. am i speaking another language.

No, and I am just explaing that everyone on the board knows what took place during WWII, that's all. Don't look it to it as a personal blemish all I was syaing was that its ok to refer to things be their name. To not do so gives that thing a mind of its own and certin power of over people.

[xpPhantomX]

Montymidget86 said:

My oppinion on war is this:
War will always be wrong in my eyes, whether it is nessessary or not. In my oppinion, it is the closest thing to hell on earth. I know that it is unavoidable sometimes, but it is still a horrible evil inflicted on the world. It brings hate, fear, and misery to all who are affected by it. nobody really wins in war. everyone loses something.

ok war isnt always wrong.so if we get attacked by another country we are just suppose to dig our own graves and lie down take it? i think not. war is needed to prevent bigger problems from forming. like nuclear war. if we wait too long and let the problem get worse.then even warfare with just guns and non nuclear missiles wont solve the problems.countries will turn to nuclear warfare.

sorry about replying this soo late but i was banned so i couldnt post my thoughts.

[Dirk the Canary]

AdmiralRavensburg said:

No, and I am just explaing that everyone on the board knows what took place during WWII, that's all. Don't look it to it as a personal blemish all I was syaing was that its ok to refer to things be their name. To not do so gives that thing a mind of its own and certin power of over people.

im gonna have to agree with yacks here. to me, expressing sorrow for the holocaust is acceptable, even expectable. but expressing deep seated depression because hitler killed off 7 million jews and would have kept killing them until there were no left suggests that hitler might as well have done it, because youre already acting like he did. im not in any way downplaying the holocaust or the loss incurred therein, but, in a way, get over it.

[xpPhantomX]

ok in my opinion there has only been one war that was unjust. that was the war we decided to have in somalia against adid and his militia. they posed no threat to the united states.it was a civil war that we should have gotten into. during the only major battle we had in that war we lost 17 men and 79 men were wounded.we only sent 130 men into somalia. Somalia needed to settle this civil war themselves.the united states shouldnt have gotten into it. Clinton should have just ignored what was going on.

Again in my opinion vietnam is borderline to being a unjust war or not. it depends on how you look at it. at the time it looked like a good idea to go in and try to stop communism from spreading. there is two sides to this. one group could say that there would be the "domino theory" where if vietnam fell then all of asia would fall to communism. which would pose a threat against us. the other group could say that we failed in vietnam and it showed that the "domino theory" wasnt true.because vietnam fell, but none of the other asian countries fell.

so there has only been 1 unjust war and 1 borderline war in all of the history of the united states

and again to comment on monty's post about how all war is wrong. so your saying the revolutionary war was unjust??so your saying we still should be a colony of the british. if we didnt fight the revolutionary war then this world would be much different. second, so again your saying the civil war was wrong? the civil war helped stop slavery.if we didnt have that war, then the the united states might still have slavery today.or the south would still have slavery. once again it was a good thing we fought that war.

well i can see you dont want to listen to me ramble on.i'll end this post now.

[William]

umm...how about the revolutionary, they thought taxes were high (although they were less than 1/3 than those of british citizens), they didnt want troops in their cities (although they always complained about the indians attacking), and they wanted representation in the government (they moved out of britian because they disagreed with the government, now they wanted to be a part of it...)...thats just???

[xpPhantomX]

so your saying we should be part of britain??

[Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper]

William said:

umm...how about the revolutionary, they thought taxes were high (although they were less than 1/3 than those of british citizens), they didnt want troops in their cities (although they always complained about the indians attacking), and they wanted representation in the government (they moved out of britian because they disagreed with the government, now they wanted to be a part of it...)...thats just???

History, my good friend William. The revolutionaires asked for representation in the British Parliment, yes. However, the leaders of the Revolution knew that if they were to recive representation in the Parliment, that it would be insiginificant as they would easily be overuled by the significant majority. They used it as another issue to complain about and give more reason to their cause. The issue with the taxes, although low, Parliement had spent many years doing what's called Salutary Neglect. Parliment and the Monarchy of England let the colonies govern themselves and then suddendly began to slowly want to take the power of governing back. Used to the freedom they had the colonists were taken aback and were angry that now a Parliment which had not really passed laws concerning them did, to help pay back part of the debt England occured in the Thirty Years War, which was fought agianst France. Thus, slowly as more taxes were passed the colonists slowly decided that they were better off ruling themselves and moved to throw the yoke of Parliment off.

[The Wanderer]

Mr. Offer would be proud Jeff...damn fine job there.