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Post by Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper on Nov 22, 2003 0:19:59 GMT -5
Heh, I find it to be rewarding since they absolutely insist on reminding me that they absolutely LOVE Jesus every five seconds and how I'm going to hell and the Bible is always right... Also, deism is not even a religion, much less a PAGAN religion. I don't really feel like explaining it, so... I won't. Also, I highly doubt "faye" is a word... Actually diesm was considered a radical christian relgion. Later, the name of Diesm shifted out and you ended up with unitarians. |
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Post by scott on Nov 22, 2003 10:02:18 GMT -5
"OMFG DOODZ I SHURE DO LOV THAT JESUS CUZ I WANNA GET INTO HEAVEN AND EVERY1 ELS IS ST00PID" No...others are wrong not stupid,in my eyes. |
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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 22, 2003 21:55:54 GMT -5
Actually diesm was considered a radical christian relgion. Later, the name of Diesm shifted out and you ended up with unitarians. No, Deism and Unitarianism are not the same thing. The Unitarian religion was formed out of the ideas of Deism and is totally separate. |
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 24, 2003 22:55:42 GMT -5
ok...the whole time thing, why is God outside of time, he is time and defines its limits, so how is he outside it...you have no eveidence at all to support it... im not sayinng your wrong, people just say that as a given, and say its beyond our logic, well maybe he is in time, and he does all the stuff in time beyond our logic... and free will, i would like a direct verse that shows free will... If God was limited by time, he could not know much, only what is and what has been. Its isn't beyond our logic to say that he exists outside of time, or understand it to some extent. But it is beyond our logic to understand exactly how he does it, what he is, all that he knows. I don't know of any direct verses in the Bible that say "free will" in them. But its obvious and its everywhere in the Bible and its understood. Jesus always asks people to accept tasks, and they must chose to accept or refuse his requests (b/c he knows the future, so to speak, he knows what they will chose, but they are there in their own existence making that conscious choice in time). People chose to accept Jesus, or to refuse him, and he says those that do not accept him (it is understood here that we have free will to decide whehter we do so or not for ourselves) will be punished. Those that chose to accept him (again, of their own free will) will enter His kingdom. |
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