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Post by Megzymeg on Dec 14, 2003 10:52:52 GMT -5
go bush ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by ijustdolinks on Dec 14, 2003 12:18:22 GMT -5
hah.
politics dont matter, polotics will never matter. saddam hussen is evil, leaving him in power would not promote peace, but neither would war. freedom cannot be won with the knife, but fith the olive branch.
as many of these countries have "liberated" we have supported just as many thugs, in fact we suported saddam when it suited our intrests.
look at the shaw of iran. look at nierega (sp?) who was the leader of panama.
and finally, no, saddam husseyn has nothing to do with Osama or 9/11. osama is operating under a jihad, a holy war. Saddam is just a megolomaniac it has nothing to do with religion. they dont like each other. if osama had his way he would also over throw iraq.
but all that dosnt matter, why? because violence is never right. Spanish american, WW1, WW2, desert storm... none were right. i have nothing to fear.
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Post by Mark617 on Dec 15, 2003 23:03:57 GMT -5
how can war never be justified? if we and the other ally countries had not fought WWII, there would be no more jews, croats, czechs, ukrainis (sp), brits, danes, russians, chinese, ect. ect. ect. Yes, mistakes have been made in the past, but you must be realistic. Politicians are merely humans, they do not know what will be the consequences of their actions down the road. the "thugs" supported by America were hoped to be better than those who ruled before them, but many werent. but the attempt had to be made
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Post by Wilshire on Dec 16, 2003 14:50:09 GMT -5
there is very strong evidence to suggest that saddam ordered the ingredients to make weapons of mass destruction. There are tape recordings of meetings between saddam and osama so saying they aren't related isn't true.
Saddam is now out of power. A better, not perfect, government will be established in Iraq. Saddam will give us information (one way or another) and we'll learn more. The war on terrorism isn't over. Things will improve eventually, its gonna be one long fight, but we will eradicate many of the terrorist organizations, making people safer.
Bush never said it was gonna be easy. In fact he said it would take years, and we would lose people. But we are winning, no one can dispute that, although the liberla media will, and does, making up things that people will believe. Its pretty sad. What ever happened to patriotism???
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Post by SockRocker on Dec 16, 2003 16:12:03 GMT -5
i dont like it how they call it a "War on Terrorism" because they cant get rid of the idea itself...only some of its top supporters....they should call it a "war against osama and saddam" or whatever....
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Post by ijustdolinks on Dec 17, 2003 1:22:01 GMT -5
i will admitt there are varying degrees of justifiability. do i think saddam killing innocent iraqis is on the same level as allied forces killing nazis? no. but i do this that killing other people for reasons of hate is wrong. An allied soilder who shot a nazi calling him a kraut bastard who didnt deserve to live is the same level as a nazi shooting a jew, calling him a kike schwienhund. i can see how other people dont share that stand point, and thats fine.
second, m not out to villify anyone, be it poloticians or bush..anyone. do i think what bush is doing is wrong? yes. Do i think hes evil? no. Im sure hes doing what he thinks is right, but that dosnt mean i have to respect his decision.
willshire...what does that have to do with anything? i didnt say anything about waepons of mass destruction...i said he wasnt connected with 9/11.
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Post by Brian on Dec 18, 2003 15:02:34 GMT -5
i dont like it how they call it a "War on Terrorism" because they cant get rid of the idea itself...only some of its top supporters....they should call it a "war against osama and saddam" or whatever.... its so true. They aren't getting anywhere by having everyone against them. "The War on Terrorism" is rediculous. Its not like terrorism will end because the US captures Sadaam or Bin Ladin.
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Post by Brian on Dec 18, 2003 15:04:44 GMT -5
Okay, besides that, I just wanna ask (i don't know if this has been brought up yet, but still...) Do you really think picking Bush was that bad, I mean, think about it this way: What if we had Gore, then where would we be?
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Post by SockRocker on Dec 18, 2003 15:47:55 GMT -5
thats an unanswerable question....we may have been better off, we may have been worse...but we have to deal with whats NOW instead of what would be
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Post by Mark617 on Dec 18, 2003 21:34:09 GMT -5
Do you really think picking Bush was that bad, I mean, think about it this way: What if we had Gore, then where would we be? picking bush was not bad. he's been a pretty good president. patriot act is a little shaky, but it was congress that passed it after all and it does have a time limit so itll expire fairly soon. and for gore, i try not to think about what could have been, itll make you go crazy eventually
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Post by Brian on Dec 18, 2003 21:41:01 GMT -5
Yes, I strongly agree with you, Mark. I just want to appreciate the fact that you can appreciate Bush, because I know that I do. Bush is doing a job well done, and its not like he's infallible or anything. He's bound to make mistakes, he's human. Screw you, The Man!!!
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Post by Swanny on Dec 19, 2003 15:53:13 GMT -5
first off, i never liked bush. second off, i didn't agree with bush's decision to send men into Iraq. hey i'm glad we caught saddam, but that's one of the few things bush has done right. check out his resume.... www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/04/23_resume.html
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Post by bob on Dec 19, 2003 16:25:03 GMT -5
I dont support war, killing is wrong no matter what (yes, abortion too). But Bush is leading the country in the way he thinks is best. It's his right. we voted him into office. I support bush because he is a moral leader and keeps christian ideals. wilshire, i agree almost entirely with you. Bush did take saddam out of power and that is good, but patriotism is still alive... and i think we have bush to thank...or maybe osama. think about it.
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Post by scott on Dec 19, 2003 18:26:02 GMT -5
we voted him into office. That's a little iffy.Gore had more votes overall,but thanks to the Electoral College Bush got in. I am not sure if it was for better or worse...And I also agree killing is wrong no matter what.
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Post by bob on Dec 19, 2003 18:39:59 GMT -5
okay fine.but still, hes in the office, and he didnt cheat us, the tables of fate just turned favorably for him.
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