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Post by Wilshire on Nov 14, 2003 21:05:33 GMT -5
and also known as the system that yields a totalitarion dictator to control it, who is a power-hungry murderer, and hates any better system of government in this world such as democracy.  |
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Post by William on Nov 14, 2003 23:47:16 GMT -5
is that communism or marxism? cuz for either it would be wrong...
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 15, 2003 10:12:52 GMT -5
Your viewing communism and marxism and socialism (all basically the same damn thing) in their ideal state. Their ideal state doesn't work, period. It will never exist without one person who has to maintain control, and so he must have absolute power. Then, when that happens, it aint communism is it. You can see it in every communist, marxist, an socialist country; there is a person who is a dictator, and ends up killing people to subdue them, and there are almost always revolutionary ideas because people realize that being in such a state is not what they want. Its oppressive. It holds them down, keeps them on a crappy level. While those in power live in wealth. THAT, is communism.
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Post by William on Nov 15, 2003 15:24:23 GMT -5
ok...marxism is not communism...marxism is only a theorey of idealism...so its not communism...i was stating what communism acctually is not corruption, and we prefer the term socialist dogs...
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 18, 2003 20:55:56 GMT -5
At the root, marxism and communism and socialism are the same. They are ideals. They oppose capitalism, saying that individual ambition just causes disorder, and that communal economies where everything is shared are what shoud be used. Now they are either political systems, or economic ones, but they all assume a condition that can not exist because it is directly opposed to human nature. Captialism is not disorder, it is the best thing because anyone with amibition can take part and succeed a great deal more than anyone can succeed in a communistic society.
Marxism and communism are not the same in all respects, but at the base they are the same, and thus neither will ever work. Technically they never existed because they are contradiction in and of themselves.
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Post by Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper on Nov 19, 2003 16:56:34 GMT -5
ok...marxism is not communism...marxism is only a theorey of idealism...so its not communism...i was stating what communism acctually is not corruption, and we prefer the term socialist dogs... no, communist phiosophy is based off marxism though! |
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