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Post by William on Nov 7, 2003 0:59:58 GMT -5
Scott's life does matter, but keeping God's Word is more important...showing him your love trust and respect through faith is much more important than my life, if God says do not kill, i wont kill...final...what he says is more important than what i think...abraham was told to kill his son, he almost did, then God said he was righteous...because he would have killed his son over disobeying God (this was before the ten commandments)
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Post by Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper on Nov 7, 2003 19:15:19 GMT -5
not our distant ancestors...in Truth (evolution bash)... furthermore...i think our instincts dont take over...we have free will...we can choose...i wouldnt...and killing does not end the killing...i could never kill someone... if you kill Jerry...then 1000 people dont die...if you dont...they do die...what do you chose... i chose not to kill him...i could never go directly agains God's Word... and i think God would intervene if i kept his Word True, he would prevent the deaths...if not...i still did not violate and dishonor Him... I could never kill a man... I would kill jerry. Oh by the way, did God stop the Holocaust from occuring? I rest my case. |
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Post by Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper on Nov 7, 2003 19:16:19 GMT -5
Scott's life does matter, but keeping God's Word is more important...showing him your love trust and respect through faith is much more important than my life, if God says do not kill, i wont kill...final...what he says is more important than what i think...abraham was told to kill his son, he almost did, then God said he was righteous...because he would have killed his son over disobeying God (this was before the ten commandments) God said in the bible, "You shall not kill other Isrealites." Please stop taking that out of context. |
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Post by William on Nov 8, 2003 1:13:12 GMT -5
im sorry exedous 20...the "15, *crash* ten commandments!"...thou shall not murder...
im sorry...so im keeping it in context...
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Post by William on Nov 8, 2003 1:15:11 GMT -5
and the holocaust...did God have to interveine ever? he can let them die, we do not deserve to live...we have all fallen short of him...we have all failed...
he sent the flood...and...those people that were killed were not perfect...that does not justify hitler, that just makes him a hypocrite...but...God made no promise to interveine, but his Word is more important than anyones life...
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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 8, 2003 1:50:36 GMT -5
and the holocaust...did God have to interveine ever? he can let them die, we do not deserve to live...we have all fallen short of him...we have all failed... he sent the flood...and...those people that were killed were not perfect...that does not justify hitler, that just makes him a hypocrite...but...God made no promise to interveine, but his Word is more important than anyones life... Yeah god, the so-called omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent overlord of the universe sure doesn't seem to do a whole lot now does he? How have we failed your god, why don't we deserve to live? If we weren't perfect, this amazing god of yours sure did a crappy job...and don't even get me started on your flood reference, seeing as all of that Adam and Eve is completely false, most Christians agree that none of those events actually took place. |
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Post by Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper on Nov 8, 2003 14:17:32 GMT -5
and the holocaust...did God have to interveine ever? he can let them die, we do not deserve to live...we have all fallen short of him...we have all failed... he sent the flood...and...those people that were killed were not perfect...that does not justify hitler, that just makes him a hypocrite...but...God made no promise to interveine, but his Word is more important than anyones life... So either, you favor what Hitler did or you take back what you said about God preventing deaths!? Ok that's diffrent wording...that states murder and murdering someone implies that you 1. were not actin in self-defense, or 2. purposefully intended in cold-blood to take someone's life. But I still have an idea that's not what you meant. |
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Post by flamenco on Nov 9, 2003 19:52:34 GMT -5
I wanted to vote for two, miqorz is hot and that I am independent........but alas, I am jsut typing it instead.
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Post by scott on Nov 9, 2003 21:25:33 GMT -5
How have we failed your god You mean the one and only God?By sinning everyday we fall short of what God expects.We all deserve to go to Hell,but God forgives. |
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 9, 2003 21:55:44 GMT -5
God said "you shalt not kill". The Catholic Church teaches one can take another's life only when your own life is directly threatened and will be taken if you do not take the life of the other. It also teaches that the death penalty can be used, but only in the most severe of cases when it is absolutely necessary.
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 9, 2003 21:58:38 GMT -5
Being a Christian means that you believe in a God, The One God, not gods. Some Christians may not believe the events such as creation and the flood happened as is said in the Bible, it all depends on their interpretation. And they all claim truth, but if God's word is spoken in the Bible, how can they say what is written in it did not happen?
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 9, 2003 22:04:05 GMT -5
Another point. God created everything, but he did not create sin. Sin, technically is not a created thing, but the result of Adam and Eve's (humankind's) pride, and failure to obey God's commands.
So sin only exists because we chose it. God never wanted it to happen, but he knew it was going to happen because he is omniscient. God knows everything that did happen, is happening, and will happen. He exists outside of time, and outside of our ability to comprehend his exact nature. We only know he is "supernatural", and he IS, he just IS.
So the Holocaust happened because we chose it, God works through what we do, and we put Hitler out of power. Ending the Holocaust.
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 9, 2003 22:04:38 GMT -5
and a good quote by St. Augustine (i think): The only way for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing.
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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 9, 2003 22:51:57 GMT -5
No direct offense to anyone here, but I do believe I feel the impulse to throw up...
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Post by scott on Nov 10, 2003 19:51:19 GMT -5
God said "you shalt not kill". The Catholic Church teaches one can take another's life only when your own life is directly threatened and will be taken if you do not take the life of the other. It also teaches that the death penalty can be used, but only in the most severe of cases when it is absolutely necessary. Well the Catholic Church can teach whatever it wants and it will still be wrong.They have a history of not always being the best authority on things also. The Bible says thou shall not kill.I take that to heart and will never kill for any reason. |
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