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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 4, 2003 22:08:00 GMT -5
I know that I couldn't live with myself if I was involved in killing someone. Vash is definitely my hero in this regard. No matter how bad the situation became, he always tried to not hurt anyone
And Jeff, you could probably borrow a few things from me or Scott or someone...
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Post by scott on Nov 4, 2003 23:14:33 GMT -5
I know that I couldn't live with myself if I was involved in killing someone. Amen. I don't care if someone is running at me with a knife,I just couldn't kill him.I couldn't live with it,and I have no idea how any of you could. Killing is wrong,I don't care the reason for the killing,it doesn't change the fact that it is wrong. |
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 4, 2003 23:35:33 GMT -5
yes killing is wrong. but wouldn't you deem it necessary when it is the one and only way to end more killing or more undeserved harm? negotiation doesn't always work.
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Post by Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper on Nov 5, 2003 0:11:40 GMT -5
Thanks jim, Ithink I may take you up on that anime offer.
Someone asked how you could kill someone, I think you would too Scott if you were ever in really danger. Instincts can take over and say you had a gun, you may just pull the trigger without realizing what your're doing becasue your animal instinct will kick in due to every humans survival instinct. In times like that the rational part of your brain is suspendened and the animalistic aspect left over from our distant ancenstors kicks in and takes over.
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Post by William on Nov 5, 2003 0:38:52 GMT -5
not our distant ancestors...in Truth (evolution bash)...
furthermore...i think our instincts dont take over...we have free will...we can choose...i wouldnt...and killing does not end the killing...i could never kill someone...
if you kill Jerry...then 1000 people dont die...if you dont...they do die...what do you chose...
i chose not to kill him...i could never go directly agains God's Word...
and i think God would intervene if i kept his Word True, he would prevent the deaths...if not...i still did not violate and dishonor Him...
I could never kill a man...
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Post by Mark617 on Nov 5, 2003 18:36:47 GMT -5
im not sure about ur scenerio kenny. if Jerry was gonna kill 1000 people if i didnt kill him: then i would. But if the 1000 people would die at no intentional fault of Jerry's then i wouldnt
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Post by William on Nov 5, 2003 23:01:20 GMT -5
they would die by his actions directly...
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Post by TheSilentDemon on Nov 6, 2003 20:56:03 GMT -5
Ahem. I couldn't have said it better myself.And I don't believe in war so any war we are in I am not in favor of. even a war in defense of our country or in the defense of others. are u saying that WW2 was wrong. yeh wars are bad and all but they are sometimes necessary. unless you want the entire world to be eating kraut right now because if we didn't get involved in WW2 then germany would probably hold dominance over most of the known world. yeh wars are bad but if someone starts pushing you around and starts kicking your ass are you just gonna sit there and take it or are u gonna defend yourself |
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Post by Mark617 on Nov 6, 2003 21:00:06 GMT -5
all good points, also if we didnt get involved in WWII then there wouldnt be many people left to eat the kraut
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Post by TheSilentDemon on Nov 6, 2003 21:14:06 GMT -5
well see there u go that furthers the point even more. wars are bad but in many cases they are necassary.
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Post by BELETH the Mighty on Nov 6, 2003 21:23:27 GMT -5
No one has the right to extinguish the candle of life.”
-Rem Saverem
--Trigun
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Post by scott on Nov 6, 2003 21:53:38 GMT -5
even a war in defense of our country or in the defense of others. are u saying that WW2 was wrong. yeh wars are bad and all but they are sometimes necessary. unless you want the entire world to be eating kraut right now because if we didn't get involved in WW2 then germany would probably hold dominance over most of the known world. yeh wars are bad but if someone starts pushing you around and starts kicking your ass are you just gonna sit there and take it or are u gonna defend yourself Any killing is wrong to me,I don't care what it is for.And yes I would just sit there and take,I would not lower myself to that person's level. And good work on that quote Ben,it's a good'n. |
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Post by TheSilentDemon on Nov 7, 2003 0:16:42 GMT -5
i have pity for you scott. you don't care enough about yourself to defend your own life. you say you have value in life well do u have value in your own life. if u did have value in your life then you would defend yourself. but i guess that is not the case
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Post by TheSilentDemon on Nov 7, 2003 0:18:58 GMT -5
and another thing. if your friends and family were being slain right in front of your eyes you wouldn't do anything to protect them. you would let your family die just because you don't believe in killing. thats pretty piss poor. i don't know anyone else in my life that would let that happen and just sit by and watch. thats not pacifism thats cowardice
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 7, 2003 0:39:09 GMT -5
First of all, you can't not "believe" in war. War is here now, its always been here, and its part of human nature. A part that is bad indeed and should often be avoided, but there are times when it is necessary for the welfare of a people or the entire world.
Silent makes a great point. If your family was being killed, you would not take action because you "wouldn't lower yourself to that person's level"?? If anyone even tried to seriously hurt a member of my family, or even a good friend, I would make that person regret it for the rest of their lives.
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