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Post by scott on Nov 4, 2003 17:50:08 GMT -5
if you act like a christian then you will go to heaven. No you must believe in the works of Jesus and have faith.You can't "fake" it. |
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Post by Clump on Nov 4, 2003 19:13:34 GMT -5
You need genuine belief to go to Heaven, but then again, what about Agape Man's "Anonymous Christian"?
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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 4, 2003 19:21:59 GMT -5
You need genuine belief to go to Heaven, but then again, what about Agape Man's "Anonymous Christian"? You mean the guy I turned into a fondue pot? Heh... But still all this talk of having to live a "christian life" or being Christian seems very narrow-minded. Why must it all be based off of what Christians view as wrong or right? |
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Post by BELETH the Mighty on Nov 4, 2003 20:28:43 GMT -5
Majority rules.
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Post by Clump on Nov 4, 2003 20:30:42 GMT -5
Good point Lokes (heh), it does seem narrow-minded.
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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 4, 2003 20:57:36 GMT -5
Bah. Just because it's the majority doesn't mean it's right. And don't give me anything like "but that's the way it is, so deal with it" crap... |
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Post by Clump on Nov 4, 2003 21:31:38 GMT -5
Definately, there's no way of proving that any view is right. Not yet at least.
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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 4, 2003 21:56:19 GMT -5
Definately, there's no way of proving that any view is right. Not yet at least. *High Five* Woo! People agree with me! Oh man everything's going great today! |
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Post by scott on Nov 4, 2003 23:31:06 GMT -5
You mean the guy I turned into a fondue pot? Heh... But still all this talk of having to live a "christian life" or being Christian seems very narrow-minded. Why must it all be based off of what Christians view as wrong or right? Because as Christians we beleive that Jesus is the truth and that he is right. |
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Post by Clump on Nov 4, 2003 23:33:37 GMT -5
Most people tend to take what they believe as what is ultimately right.
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Post by William on Nov 5, 2003 1:05:37 GMT -5
They better think their beliefs are right, otherwise those are weak beliefs to base your life off...
Christianity, Jesus, God, Holy Spirit, Bible, Word, Natural Depravity are all Truth, absolute Truth...
i say this because i believe they are...not just for me...for everyone...if you have a belief, and you dont think that its true for everyone, thats a weak belief, how can something be truth for one person and not another?
like 1+1 = 2
i think 1+1 = 4 (hypothetical situation...)
so if your truth is 1 + 1 = 2, does that mean that my truth (1+1=4) is also right...?
no! only one can be right, and if you believ in something, you better believe its the truth, otherwise how can you believe in it?
its not narrow minded...its a firm Faith, i can change my beliefs if i find a different truth...that is the acctual truth, but i already found it...and i believe it is it...
so were not narrow minded, we just found the Truth...
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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 5, 2003 12:51:30 GMT -5
There is no spiritual truth in this world... There is no religious truth to be "found" Every individual fashions his own sense of reality, everyone interprets life as they see fit. There is no "right" or "wrong" when it comes to matters of spirituality...
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Post by TheSilentDemon on Nov 6, 2003 21:27:43 GMT -5
just because you beleive something to be true doesn't mean that i have to make other people believe it too. just because someone doesn't believe in what you think to be true doesn't mean that your wrong or that they are necassarily it just means you have two different ways of looking at things. its all opinionated william. you can't expect everyone to conform to one truth. thats what thye did in the crusades and it didn't turn out good.
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Post by Mark617 on Nov 6, 2003 21:32:01 GMT -5
There is no spiritual truth in this world... There is no religious truth to be "found" Every individual fashions his own sense of reality, everyone interprets life as they see fit. There is no "right" or "wrong" when it comes to matters of spirituality... thats kinda the philosophy ive been thinking about lately. still trying to work out a few kinks in my thinking though |
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Post by TheSilentDemon on Nov 7, 2003 0:11:52 GMT -5
yeh the best part is the "there is no right or wrong" its all about what you believe in. you shouldn't be worrying about what other people think. we shouldn't be telling other people that they are wrong, rather we should acept them for who they are not what they believe in
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