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Post by GilSchwartzman on Nov 3, 2003 23:06:30 GMT -5
first off, kenny, you have the worst categorizations of music ever. seriously, go to a music review website and try looking up gorillaz under R&B. THEY ARENT THERE! and wilshire, rap is not necessarily talking fast to a beat, or talking rythmically for that matter. Maya Angelou says poems, does that make her rap? so did walt whitman, was he a rap artist?
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Post by William on Nov 4, 2003 1:27:26 GMT -5
okay...john...i dont have a bad catagorization...it is just strictly different from others...i base it on the term...rythm...and blues...not the common catagory...sure you wont find it there...but i think it has a very large rythm/harmony ratio, and has some large blues influences and patterns...
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 4, 2003 21:31:20 GMT -5
first off, kenny, you have the worst categorizations of music ever. seriously, go to a music review website and try looking up gorillaz under R&B. THEY ARENT THERE! and wilshire, rap is not necessarily talking fast to a beat, or talking rythmically for that matter. Maya Angelou says poems, does that make her rap? so did walt whitman, was he a rap artist? oi... okay. yes rap is talking to a beat and a rhythm. if its in "music", and its talk, and theirs a beat, its rap. poetry is different. its literature, and it flows by meter. most poetry is not put to music, but if it was it would most likely be sung, and not rapped. and no walt whitman wasn't a rap artist. but if put to music, with a audible beat, and recited, it would classify as rap. i heard a rap song today in the car. i don't know who does it. it had 1) a synthesized series of notes that played over and over again, that a first year guitar player could easily play. 2) a complex, but synthesized drum beat 3) a group of people talking and yelling, not singing. and it wasn't harmonic at all. half the time i could not understand them either. if you want to call that "good music", ooook, go right ahead. i wont though. |
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Post by GilSchwartzman on Nov 4, 2003 22:14:07 GMT -5
once again, have you heard of THE ROOTS??? and also , a lot of old school rap has a heavy emphasis on the DJ and the way he plays around with the beat. that shit is tight. when you keep makingyoure generalizations like, "all black people are stupid" youre bound to offend someone wilshire, so you better back off
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 4, 2003 23:20:31 GMT -5
woah. you went from old school rap and the roots to me saying "all black people are stupid". Where the hell do you get this from?  ?? Honestly! Im talking about rap as a type of music. Its talking ryhtmically. Yes there is other stuff in with it, but rap is the type of music often incorporated in with other types of music where there is rhythmic TALKING. I love rap in a lot of kinds of music. I like it best when there is real music and talent involved, and old school rap is fun. A lot of the mainstream rap and R&B is crap in my belief. Did I EVER say that "all black people are dumb"? NO! So please stop saying that I did (among other things), and stop making these things up Gil! |
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Post by William on Nov 5, 2003 1:22:51 GMT -5
umm...rap is not talking fast to a beat...where did you get that? what are the blues, talking fast with a blues pattern...(a beat)...they are blues, and he isnt rapping hes singing the blues, while often it isnt actually singing...furthermore...poetrey is never turned to rap...it becomes a recital...and rap is often poetrey...so if you took a poem...like "Dawns Highway"...had him speak it fast...in tune...talking...not singing...and put a beat behind it...what do you get? well...take a guess people...
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 5, 2003 21:55:45 GMT -5
uh...rap
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 5, 2003 22:00:16 GMT -5
here we go.
rap (verb): 1. to talk freely and frankly 2. to perform rap music.
rap (noun): 1. talk, conversation; also a line of talk 2. (a) a rhythmic chanting often in unison of usu. rhymed couplets to a musical accompaniment (b) a piece so performed
so rap as a noun (2, a) is rhythmic chanting (not like a gregorian chant) in unison, ususally in rhymed couplets. So if poetry which is in rhymed couplets was put to music and "chanted" in unison, its rap.
what do you define rap as?
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Post by ♫MysteriousMan♫ on Nov 6, 2003 9:43:48 GMT -5
stop flaming wilshire, and stop putting words in his mouth. he never said anything about black people. lay off him.
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Post by Wilshire on Nov 7, 2003 0:42:59 GMT -5
when you keep makingyoure generalizations like, "all black people are stupid" youre bound to offend someone wilshire, so you better back off Oh he didn't? haha my mistake...  (talk about putting words in people's mouths  ) |
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Post by William on Nov 7, 2003 1:41:14 GMT -5
uhh...no...you get a hit rock song by the doors... |
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Post by Seal_Tech on Nov 11, 2003 18:06:28 GMT -5
Gil u know ur shit. I like the way that you can come up with ways to tell people that they are wrong but do it in a matter where it is nice but puts them down at the same time.
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Post by Lord Mildrid the Nut Schlapper on Nov 11, 2003 18:28:39 GMT -5
I dislike rap very much, I simply think its not music at all.
Hey, you can't spell cRAP without rap.
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Post by GilSchwartzman on Nov 11, 2003 20:13:30 GMT -5
Gil u know ur shit. I like the way that you can come up with ways to tell people that they are wrong but do it in a matter where it is nice but puts them down at the same time. what the hell does that even mean? seriously here. is this some sort of tribute to me or what? nice sarcasm if you're even going for sarcasm. stop being an idiot, you sac. and wilshire did say that I can prove it. |
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Post by William on Nov 11, 2003 21:56:02 GMT -5
umm...nice comment...about the sarcasm...is this supposed to be some hate thread or something? i thought it was a discussion, not a flame or praise thread...really...
and john, you dont really come up with proofs against my catagorization, just a different opinion, a proof is basically impossible, being that its an opinionated situation...
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