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Dec 6, 2003 15:05:41 GMT -5
Post by The Wanderer on Dec 6, 2003 15:05:41 GMT -5
I really do not care to carry on this conversation any further. I have stated my ideas and do not care to argue them because this debate is an endless circle. It will never be resolved, just as time has no end, neither will this discussion...
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Dec 6, 2003 15:15:53 GMT -5
Post by scott on Dec 6, 2003 15:15:53 GMT -5
If there was a start there must be an end...
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Dec 6, 2003 16:09:28 GMT -5
Post by The Wanderer on Dec 6, 2003 16:09:28 GMT -5
If there was a start there must be an end... Only if we choose to end it. It will not resolve itself on it's own. There is no beginning to the story. A bookshelf sinks into the sand
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Dec 6, 2003 22:03:01 GMT -5
Post by BELETH the Mighty on Dec 6, 2003 22:03:01 GMT -5
Well traveling back in time is not impossible, I don't believe. You said that if you killed Hitler it would change the present thus you would not have gone back in time to kill him. This being so, if you were to return to your own time after changing the past, it would create a universal paradox and possibly destroy the fabric of existence, if existence cared enough about that kind of thing. That is why time would branch off and create two alternate realities in order to compensate for the fact that a particular human decided to be an assbite and fool around with the past.
I also believe it possible to travel back in time because of one thing; memory. Our brains are able to use certain electrical signals to tap into recollections of things that have already happened. Thus it is possible for there to be a similar signal for the universe itself, and the ability to utilize this signature and alter it, then transfer it into a physical manifestation and project it into a field big enough for, say, a human to be contained within it. Then just making the universe "remember" a particular event in occurence in a particular place at a particular point in time would project the subject within that field to the point of designation. I've never given any thought to this and just discovered this theory as I was writing it.
And traveling into the future is kind of a question of whether you believe in fate or not, because of the idea that everything has been mapped out already and that time is like a railroad, simply carrying itself through the predestined events on said track.
Either way, we've already had Einstein to think about this crap, and his theory states that time is simply relative, like gravity. I think. I'm not sure. Whatever, I'm hungry. Possibly more some other time, if the weather is right.
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Dec 6, 2003 23:36:28 GMT -5
Post by The Wanderer on Dec 6, 2003 23:36:28 GMT -5
Either way, we've already had Einstein to think about this crap, and his theory states that time is simply relative, like gravity. I think. I'm not sure. Whatever, I'm hungry. Possibly more some other time, if the weather is right. It's Einstein's theories on the universe that support my ideas. His theory of relativity shows that time is a malleable dimension of reality. |
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Dec 9, 2003 14:29:22 GMT -5
Post by Montymidget86 on Dec 9, 2003 14:29:22 GMT -5
im mo' have to side with the "time does not exist"'ers Yeah, time isn't real, it's a concept that humans came up with. Its like numbers, emotions, or ideas. You couldnt just go up to someone and say, "Hey, pal! give me a whole bushle of time!"...though it would be quite helarious. |
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Dec 9, 2003 18:21:23 GMT -5
Post by leprechauneddie on Dec 9, 2003 18:21:23 GMT -5
Lady Large Lump, the Chaun is sorry to say this, but you don't know what you're talking about.
However, the Chaun agrees that time, as we measure and comprehend it, does not exist. It is merely a human construct (like all your other physics things: force, power, resistivity, ect.) used to better understand the way the universe works.
The funny thing is, time travel in the future IS possible. Sorry ladies, it's been experimentally proven (the 2 atomic clocks thing). But how the hell that is, the Chaun doesn't know. Yet.
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Dec 9, 2003 18:53:59 GMT -5
Post by The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2003 18:53:59 GMT -5
Yeah, time isn't real, it's a concept that humans came up with. Its like numbers, emotions, or ideas. You couldnt just go up to someone and say, "Hey, pal! give me a whole bushle of time!"...though it would be quite helarious. Um....emotions are an artificial construct of humanity? Sure thing buddy, whatever you say... You've missed the point by a few hops, skips and jumps my friend... |
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Dec 9, 2003 19:05:02 GMT -5
Post by leprechauneddie on Dec 9, 2003 19:05:02 GMT -5
The Chaun's point exactly.
But anyway, how can you prove that travel into the past is possible? Nobody's actually done THAT.
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IamAlia
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I may be a dork, but my hair knows how to party.
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Dec 9, 2003 21:33:17 GMT -5
Post by IamAlia on Dec 9, 2003 21:33:17 GMT -5
it's really quite simple
stop reading half assed science fiction
it is a very well understood and generally accepted theory that nothing can be proved, not even existence and that the universe is a construct of human thought, including the humans in it
we could therfore conclude that time is a human construct since reality is and in the same vein that we could say that you cannot travel through a non-existent medium, therfore time travel is not only impossible, but the whole idea that "we are travelling through time, but we're just doing it forward" is a flaming crock as well since time does not essentially exist.
I'm very aware that that whole thing has hole in it you could put an aircraft carrier in but I don't want to go into every single particle theory argument I've read, but if I was EXTREMELY vague, just ask
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Dec 10, 2003 10:10:39 GMT -5
Post by Montymidget86 on Dec 10, 2003 10:10:39 GMT -5
Point taken, however, i still believe that time doesnt exist
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Eskimo
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cast in the name of god
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Dec 10, 2003 12:41:03 GMT -5
Post by Eskimo on Dec 10, 2003 12:41:03 GMT -5
I believe i don't really give a crap. all this time babble, i realize, has no effect on:
my life
OR
my religion
so screw it! yeah, that felt good.
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Dec 14, 2003 20:55:13 GMT -5
Post by xenocide7375 on Dec 14, 2003 20:55:13 GMT -5
I believe that there is no such thing as time, but is is merely soemthing our nervous system does.
to learn more about this read miceal crichons( i dont knwo how to spell his name) book, Timeline
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Dec 15, 2003 18:12:37 GMT -5
Post by SockRocker on Dec 15, 2003 18:12:37 GMT -5
i think that if there were no time...we wouldnt die....i think it was humans that invented the INTERVALS of time...not time itself...
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DarkNightmare
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Dec 19, 2003 12:44:38 GMT -5
Post by DarkNightmare on Dec 19, 2003 12:44:38 GMT -5
Exactly!! We can measure time, so therefore it MUST be! the unit of measurement is a human construct, but time has existed since the dawn of time.
Think of it this way: wasn't there a state of being previous to this post? that was time before this post.
Traveling back in time would require a much higher understanding of time. You sail upstream using a paddle to push off against water, so in order to sail uptime, you'd need something to push off of, which we are currently unaware of.
However, perhaps in the future... I saw a documentary on TV about ancient Eqyptian ruins, and in a vault scientifically proven to have never been opened since those times, there was carved into the rock outlines of a 747, an F-18, a car, and, in a different part of the ruin, a perfectly sculpted model of the Millenium Falcon. Either time travel will exist sometime in the future, or Star Wars is alot older than we think it is...
Oh, and on an earlier point, human emotions are defined as an emmergent behavior, that is, something that is more than the sum of its parts.
It's like poker: You can study the rules till you know everything about it, but the actual experience of playing poker (poker faces, strategies employed, etc. are emmergent behaviors of poker).
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