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Post by DPrzybylo01 on Oct 27, 2003 19:58:39 GMT -5
I think you're wrong there. I think they do exist, it is just damn near impossible to measure. If we had the time and effort and crap to measure to that small of an incriment, i think we would be so advanced in technology that we could actually use that money and technology elseware. Basically, I disagree with you. You say the distances aren't real. I say they are there, they are just too small to see and notice with your naked eye. If you used a microscope, you could see things that you might think aren't real. It's hard to describe, but I hope you all get it. Phil, I really disagree with you on this one. The whole point is that there is an infinite number of points, and that you can never measure a point in the sequence, since the sequence itself requires that the points in it always get smaller. Other than that, I agree with Chivo And Willyboy, it's an asymptote |
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Post by William on Oct 27, 2003 23:55:37 GMT -5
hey...dont call me freaking willyboy you punk! i dont need your crap...besides that...im not a freaking retard...it is an asymptote...obviously...gets close to a point, without ever reaching it..im just stating the flaw in the infinty basis....im not a dumb crap...
hah...that was fun...sorry...i just felt like pretending to be a jerk...it was fun...i dont do that noramlly...it was all in humor...but id rather be called william or kenny...but yeah...it is an asymptote...which is intresting...because most asymptote's have limits and this one doesnt...whatever...just something to think about...
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Post by Chivo on Oct 28, 2003 22:24:31 GMT -5
Feed the cow and stop thinking about your "limitless" asymptote. Asymptotes are a graphical representation of a type of limit.
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Post by William on Oct 28, 2003 22:28:59 GMT -5
its a thread to discuss the limitless ones...so dont just be like...dont talk about it...
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Post by Chivo on Oct 29, 2003 17:36:43 GMT -5
Don't take it personally, I'm not saying "don't talk about it", I'm saying, "go read about Calculus and then talk about it." Infinity is an enigmatic quantity, I agree with you there, but your "proof" is mathematically wrong (which is likely of all proofs written in English and not mathematical symbols). One last time I'll essay to explain this. Using your "area" example (and I'm still not sure if this is what you meant because using the word "odd" when speaking about shapes is ambiguous. Do you mean an odd shape as in "unusual", or an odd shape as in "symettric about the origin"). Infinity is not misunderstood, it is understood very well. In fact, it is impossible to measure the area of any complex shape (curves, etc..) without utilizing infinity in Riemann sums. Go to the link below, read up, get enlightened. Intuitive and easy explanations: www.karlscalculus.orgPurely mathematical explanations: www.sosmath.org |
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Post by William on Oct 30, 2003 0:15:10 GMT -5
yeah...thats aerostotiles famous beginings...but im saying...applying our human common sense to infinity...movement is impossible...there fore common sense...infinity...or movement is flawed...
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Post by CrazyOldLuther on Nov 8, 2003 0:19:48 GMT -5
Hey Guys! I got some CRAZY!!!!! new ideas that you're gonna love. The only way to get into heaven is to throw your feces at the devil!!! Also, tell everyone that they're already on their way to hell!!!! It's sure to win some people over to my religion (only the stupid ones though)!!!!!!! CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Dirk the Canary on Nov 12, 2003 23:00:18 GMT -5
okay, kinda changing the subject here: is the universe infinitely large? and if so, how does one define God then? and if not, then what happens at the edge of the universe?
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Post by William on Nov 12, 2003 23:07:04 GMT -5
how does defining God even relate to this? further...
they thought that after the big bang...the central gravity of it all would bring the universe to collapse..and reform the pre-big bang form...thing...but they researched it and came to the the shocking revelation that it is expanding, which wouldnt be odd...becuause they thought it would be slowing down then, and then collapse...but its expanding at an increasing rate! so they theorize that maybe about 2/3 of all existance is black energy, and about 1/3 black matter, and the rest is earth and planets and stars and what now...the leeway...
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Post by Dirk the Canary on Nov 17, 2003 22:44:08 GMT -5
how can you just say a bunch of stuff after a question and disguise it like an answer when it really bears no relevance to the question that was asked? huh?
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Post by William on Nov 18, 2003 0:30:48 GMT -5
The proper way to go about this is to take the plastic ring thing and compress it until it pushes the marble into the bottle.
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Post by William on Nov 18, 2003 0:31:07 GMT -5
like that...and my answer was about the edges of the universe...
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Post by DarkNightmare on Nov 18, 2003 12:59:45 GMT -5
I think the universe is infinitely large, it has to be. Movement can take place, because within a select area of infinity, one can move. You can make measurements in infinite space, but you cannot define the limits of a limitless space. select areas within the limitless space can be measured. I mean, think about it... You say the universe is expanding? If the realm we exist in is finite, eventually, on all sides, the universe will crash into some barrier. Where is that? what is it composed of? What's outside the barrier? I don't think it is possible that this universe is limited merely because its easier to imagine infinite space than trying to make sense out of a finite world. Also, what force could possibly cause the universe to expand at a growing rate? that's not possible, unless there was some sort of pull, or push. The universe isn't propelling it self... right? no blasts of energy pushing the universe out? what's the deal with that?
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Post by Dirk the Canary on Nov 18, 2003 21:24:07 GMT -5
ok, william, i see your answer (kinda), so my bad
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Post by William on Nov 18, 2003 22:06:10 GMT -5
I think the universe is infinitely large, it has to be. Movement can take place, because within a select area of infinity, one can move. You can make measurements in infinite space, but you cannot define the limits of a limitless space. select areas within the limitless space can be measured. I mean, think about it... You say the universe is expanding? If the realm we exist in is finite, eventually, on all sides, the universe will crash into some barrier. Where is that? what is it composed of? What's outside the barrier? I don't think it is possible that this universe is limited merely because its easier to imagine infinite space than trying to make sense out of a finite world. Also, what force could possibly cause the universe to expand at a growing rate? that's not possible, unless there was some sort of pull, or push. The universe isn't propelling it self... right? no blasts of energy pushing the universe out? what's the deal with that? umm...i guess the dark energy does the pushing...but i didnt come up with it...it was a discovery made by three scientific studying groups in a row with no communication to each other...and it was finished around march i want to say...but thats all in know...we watched a movie on it in science... |
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